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Anyways, we have the usual stuff, and a few other quirks. The webpage is almost done thanks to our good friend Zeus and so by the next issue we should be all set. I'd like to take a minute to mention Defacto2 and it's scene archive. This is a place EVERYONE should go. Every old school guy can relive some old memories, and the new people can learn about the better times of the scene. Mass respect to them for this. I also want to especially thank Bones for filling in for Bud last week and yet in our confusion to get it out we failed to include it. Prozac was kind enough to post it on ihs page and if you didn't check it out, you should. It's quite good. Thanks again bones. -Lester [Co-Editor/Head Writer] Ok people... This issue is dedicated to acidapple, who is sick and dying in a german hospital somewhere right now. I talked to him the other day, and the dude isn't doing so well.. he is one thin motherfucker... I won't go into specifics, but he has a laptop every now and then so if you see him, wish him well.. He promises to once again become fatapple, and trade like a mofo.... so... good luck, bro! On to some happy(?) news! The mag is once again out on a tuesday.. heh... like muthafuckin' clockwork, yo!... or something.. ;) OMG, we got a sweet jam-packed issue this week.. it will own you massively.... We have a wacky log of koka this week, called kokah.log... Man.. i dunno.. is there a SERIOUS language barrier there, or is the dude honestly that stupid? We also have a "fantasy" pic this week, drawn by none other than the allstar NWR photographer, tdpriest... he is a man of MANY talents.. (or so i hear).... Anyways, this pic, called tdp-draw.jpg is something that he came up with one afternoon, after one of his many erotic daydream sessions that he is so famous for...... I also have a leet txt file called ZER1006.TXT from when i was very cool, and used to hang in #zeraw on undernet.. phear. Anyways.. #releases is back.. Slice interview.. Chinablu log, etc, etc check it all out, hope you enjoy!! take care everyone, have a good week!! ndetroit [Co-Editor/Head Fatass] -----------[ index ]----------- I.) Intro a) Lester b) ndetroit II.) Quotes of the Week III.) Stats - Ndetroit's Weekly Stats, and comments on Sites. IV.) Lester's Biased Courier Report V.) Articles a) Prozac's Kinda Biased Games Report b) Bud's Biased Utils Report c) Lesters Moview Reviews d) VCD Group and Movie Reviews e) Interview with Slice f) Pray for a Scene Friend g) An Unflattering Log of Big Fan h) #releases is back! VI.) Scene News - All the news thats fit to print VII.) Rumors! VIII.) Closing ---------------------[ Quotes of the Week! ]--------------------- - New UTILS dir on 'e' - 'Turbo.Tax98.Tax.Evasion.Plugin.Incl. Tutorials-Leona' created by 'sanctuary' - whos got linfXp ?..dcc it to me wil u ..i need it for something.. -*** mgoh is now known as MingLee 5 DoLLa SuCKy SuCKy! ack wrong window ;P suppose to go in #manifest sorry ;P - New Upload on Root: 0128 / Knitting.Kit.v1.0.3874.Incl.Needle. Threader-EKC [vylent@EQL - [-EQUALiTY-]] -[DLS]: CONCLUSIVE.Proof.That.Aerosmith.Is.a.Lame.Thief-TNO (hfb/risc) [DLS]: CONCLUSIVE.Proof.That.No.One.Gives.2.Shits-DURANGED (duranged/motiv8) [DLS]: CONCLUSIVE.Proof.that.MIchael.Jackson.is.GAY-JACKSON5 (Kruzin/risc) [DLS]: CONCLUSIVE.Proof.That.TNO.Are.Crybabies-PENIS (mc_gusto/versus) - i kept trying to message the bot and it's like.... no fucker, i'm not here. -if u guys r sleeping with my mother, plz fix me a little brother... //fEARfLiGHt aka fft - [RDX] -0129- (Garoto/DEVOTiON) PARAMEDIC.TECH.CORP.PRO.AEROPHAGIA. RELEASE.R21.BEANO.ADD.ON-MRG people are going to have to add a new filter to their scripts to filter out garoto :P -----------[ ndetroit's sites and stats section ]----------- Well, i guess COD was narked this week. So... too bad.. Its sad to see that site go, but i guess its gone forever now, so not much we can do about that. FH is back and doing quite well, we welcome it to the list this week. FH welcomes FALLEN, becoming FALLEN WHQ. (A spot that previously belonged to the now-dormant MDK) APOC became 2000ad EHQ.. good to see. Apparently 2kad is primed for a comeback.. In other news, we welcome back the site "COD". Many of you will remember COD, from a long time ago, when it was narked. Good to see that the site finally made it back. AF1 is coming back... nice to hear.. NEC is doing pretty well in its first week.. saw the usual suspects trading there.. as well as nutcase.. wb nutty. Sorry i don't have much more news, but i'll try to come up with something a little more interesting for next week.. Thanks to the ppl who helped me with weektops... take care.. Man.. the RDX weektop owns me. cedric had 2200 megs this week.. nice work, dude.. i guess its more of a "monthtop" now, or smth.. I didn't have enough weektops this week, missed out on HOE, E, and STH.. so if the scores look fucked, then... deal with it.. someone collect more weektops... siteops: get in the act if you want your sites represented. Mail your weektops to that address, or give them to tech, or duranged.. =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= Sites are rated on a 3X and 2X scale.. if you want to know why we do it that way, read an old issue. Couriers get 10 points per site they get #1 on, 9 points for 2nd place, 8 points for 3rd, etc, etc. Sites are rated by us. If you don't like the ratings, then.... heh... fuck off and die.. =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= The Top Ten sites for this week are: x3 FS -*- STH -*- ET -*- E -*- HOE x2 VDR -*- FH -*- IC -*- TV -*- DLS ---=NETMONKEY COURiER REPORT=--- trader group FS *STH ET *E *HOE VDR FH IC TV DLS pts pos --------------------------------------------------------------------- godbless DEV 4 0 2 0 0 1 3 0 2 3 118 [1] wishmaster DEV 6 0 3 0 0 2 7 2 6 0 93 [2] cedric AoD 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 5 4 84 [3] grad AoD 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 75 [4] morbid AoD 5 0 5 0 0 5 5 0 0 6 70 [4] nightsky AoD 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 50 [6] insanity EQL 0 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 8 41 [7] youthx RiSC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 40 [8] darkwolf VGN 3 0 0 0 0 3 0 3 0 7 40 [8] dirtman TFA 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 27 [10] * = no weektop this week. =--------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Lester's Biased Courier Section ]----------- Biased Courier Repot Well, Unfortunately, due to my Utils side of things taking up much of this week, I didn't pay too much attention to the sites..but i do have a couple of things..:) Dimension: Welp, Toadie continues to own, and as of presstime today, Tuesday, Caserd is movin up quick, along with the other DMS boys they are starting to get back into a groove Overall: DMS = Dyslexic Midget Syndrome Devotion: Another so/so week from the boys. Nothing special but nothing less than special either. They did their job, despite losing Leddy to DMS. Overall: DEV = Diabolically Evil Virgins AOD: AOD is not quite the mass domination of the past few weeks, but they are still going strong, on the strength of Cedric and some others. With FH back up it only increases their recent site list. Overall: Anally Obsessed Dwarves RiSC: Well, I don't think much of them, but i have to include this little tidbit about the new risc traders and their talent: [dragoth] New STH Util Upload by Garoto/DEVOTiON - WINDOWS.2000. DIZ.FIX.FOR.THE.INFO.FIX-SEIKO New STH Util Upload by hfb/RISC - WINDOWS.2000.DIZ.FIX.FOR.THE. INFO.FIX-SEIKO HFB proceeded to make this dir on all the other sites he uploaded to. So you have to applaud Risc for trading those info lines. Special thanks to Sketch, who has provided alot of good dirt on some of these fools lately.:) Overall: RISC = Ravenously Incestual Siamese Chickens Well, the theme for this week was Failed Acronym meanings for the groups. I think some of them woulda been more fitting huh?:) =----------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Articles ]----------- =----------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Prozac's Kinda Biased Gaming Report]----------- Prozac is away again this week, and we wish him a speedy return, as he straightens out the shit in his personal life... =----------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Bud's Biased Utils Section ]----------- Bud's Biased Utils Report #9 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The warped minds here at the Biased Utils Report (that means me!) opted for a change of pace this week. Instead of my usual *somewhat* truthful reviews, I've instead thrown professionalism and quality journalism out the window and gone for showmanship! So in place of the normal report, I bring you a selection of SUPER-BIASED reviews done by various members of the utils scene. Some info about the format... there was none. I gave all guest authors free reign over their chosen topic. Some decided to take a look at a given groups performance over a single week, others looked at the group as a whole. Finally, this was originally scheduled for last week, so if any dates are off, blame me. Here's the "Bud saves his ass" disclaimer.... these aren't my opions... keep that in mind (although I may choose to agree with some). And it's all for fun... don't take it TOO seriously. Disclaimer: It's BIASED moron. My opinion. So don't send me a bunch of mail & messages bitching about this or that. If you don't like it... SCREW YOU =] Rankings: Groups get a score out of 10. Points are given for amount of releases, but QUALITY titles will give a group a much higher score. Nukes for duping, broken releases and just plain CRAP will lower a groups score. However on the occasion that a title is nuked which I don't feel should have been, MY OWN JUDGEMENT TAKES PRECEDENCE. Cuz I'm writing this. Groups can also get points for any other reason I see fit. Week: Time Periods don't really apply this week, although it would have been 01/31/99 to 02/06/99. Groups: (In the order they were submitted in (I think)) THE CORPORATION: Reviewed by: Bones Hey, Bones from ENTiTY here, giving you my biased view on CORP this week. I'll start with this week. Nothing too fabulous this week, a blatantly obvious dupe of XFORCE on their best title, Opticad.. 3 apps were also put out for all you biochemists in the scene. 2 Points off for the Dupe and The Biochemical apps (I'm sure they are nice apps, but think honestly about how many people will use them). The MetaIP stuff is pretty nice so a point they lost is regained. All in all this week was nothing special at all. This week I give them a 6/10. 200- 990124 InstallWiz.Professional.Edition.V1.08-CORP 9647KB 200- 990124 Softree.PowerGraphs.Toolkit.Corporate-CORP 554KB 200- 990124 [NUKED].OptiCAD.v.5.0-CORP 2204KB 200- 990125 Omiga.V1.1-CORP 16382KB 200- 990125 Rasmol.v2.6.With.Plugins-CORP 2350KB 200- 990125 Sigma.Gel-CORP 4740KB 200- 990128 Dynamic.Authentication.Filter.v3.5j.for.NTIIS-CORP 1663KB 200- 990130 CheckPoint.MetaIP.v4.1.Enterprise-CORP 23030KB Now for a more overall look at this group. They came back to life, pretty much out of nowhere around September of 98, bringing some controversy with them. At the beginning they had a bunch of problems, probably just (re)growing pains. A whole bunch of early releases were packed with 0 compression (one actually grew in size, go figure) Here and there an app which went out as FINAL was actually a beta. Problems with other groups were around, think back the the corp.txt released a while ago. NFO wars with SIEGE cost a certain council his spot in CLASS. There were a few broken releases and a few dupes, but this happens to everyone and is not the norm for CORP. Aside from all that, Corp has been relatively steady in their releasing, with good quality titles. They seem to have GREAT support from their leaders in terms of supplying, and they have good support from their members (hi machv!). Anyways to sum it up, hopefully they can probably keep up the momentum they have started with. Overall I'd give them a 7/10, the score being lowered for all their early problems. Perhaps in a bit more time they can show that those problems are completely gone, as they have done, and this score can go up (and i think they have certainly tried, mosty successfully). X-FORCE: Reviewed by: Bud No one signed up for XF, so I did a quickie job on em. :) XForce was at one time supposedly the top group in the scene. Of course that #1 is debatable... but they were up there if you ever gave a shit what mags like RCN had to say. Either way they were once a decent releasing team. Oh my how the mighty have fallen. They've passed the torch on to Siege as far as quality graphics utils go, and they can't even seem to get the clipart out anymore. So what are we left with? Betas, builds, and maybe the odd quality title... but for the most part, XF is gathering dust. In my heart they'll always be ClipForce, movers of 1000$ artpacks. Where would my life be without BODACIOUS_TEXTURES_RUST-XFORCE!! And of course who could survive lacking the twice monthly appearence of Ultimate Toolkit for MFC. Let us not forget that this is a group that felt a need to give some sites MEGA-HQ status. Well, the Mega HQ and all the others are still around, but the titles have dried up. When all is said and done, kudos for the past work, and get yer ass in gear if ya wanna reach the millenium! LEGENDS NEVER DIE: Reviewed by: Lester As former leader of this once great group, I feel uncomfortable about writing this, and yet I feel it is neccesary for me to do so, as I was once apart of the true Legends Never Die. The true 'Legends' of this group have long since passed on into their real lives, leaving this group with a immature and immoral leader. Nightsky, who I have a great deal of respect for, is left to run this group with Grad, and does not seem to be able to control his antics, or maybe is turning a blind eye to it, as even I did for some time. LND has released some very reputable titles recently, but all titles are released to the largest size possible, and with other peoples cracks on a large number of them. Grad has numerous times stated that LND is simply for the prewhores and will use any means neccesary to release. This is a blasphemy of what the old LND stood for and was. Such grand names as Orion, TMOD, Snake, and Hannibal, are left as distant memories in the now heavily mocked LND. One can only hope that they may return and bring LND back to it's glory, or that the other leaders of LND will realize the harm that Grad is doing to this group. PINNACLE: Reviewed by: Vantmas This is my biased report on the group PINNACLE. I would like to startout by saying I was a little iffy on reviewing them because I am not a big fan of groups who name themselves after a baseball glove/ball manufacturer ( a poor one at that, my pinnacle glove is a piece of shit). I have talked to Kirk_Hammat, a senior/supplier, good job pnc of making him a senior, so he would stay and supply :) he wouldnt send me an nfo when i asked for one, so its a bad start for the pnc boys. I decided to checkout there 6 latest releases, and was suprised to find out that 4 out of 6 could be downloaded as shareware off the web, and looks like thats where they got it. I was going to say they were exactly like CORP but with respect, but thats because I was under the impression they were non-shareware, MY BAD. Looks like they might be the present day PRM, with a sprinkle of commercial releases. They have HOE as there whq, but last time I checked cardiel was still coming on irc, so it might not be up for long. Also, there nfo is very boring, take pride in your releases, maybe change it atleast ONCE A YEAR. I would rather read the dictionary. I dont know how long PNC can keep there current members, looking at there nfo i notice a LOT of dual grouping. I also notice that mr_zima and Kirk_hamma have ops in SCUM and few of there members are members of scum, so I dont know if there is a potential merge there. i have two final sentences for PNC: 1) Looks like PNC is the idle PNC of old but with 1-2 gifted carders and/or web suppliers and a supplier in kirk. 2) PNC will not be a group that lasts, guranteed and they will not release there 1 a day release for long, mark my words! This is VantMaS of ACE, saying I WANT MY ADSL, IDIOT PACBELL PEEPS. Watch for ACE in 99. SCUM: Reviewed by: Kirk Hammet Well, here we are...I'm hungry and tired so your not gonna read anything good about Scum (you werent gonna read anything good anyway). Lets start with the releases. They got six releases since they restarted. There first release "Livelink Ontime Enterprise v4.64 For WinNT" they raced PFT and lost on most sites...good job. There second release came the next day. "Sniff Plus Java v3.0.2", It's is a minor update from Corp's release of v3.0.1 and it didnt even work but at least the fix was out the same day! Excellents Work Guys!. "MGI Videowave v2.0" is actually a good title, gotta give them that one. Except for the fact that it didnt really work. Some options werent working, and it would crash more times than fusions mom on herion. Another outstanding job by our Scum friends. The Next item on the acuation block is "Vision Jade v4.0a FULL SUITE", seems to me like a dupe of TRPS's version. They say its different and the difference is that its a fuller version, so basicly its the same shit just more .doc's and crap files for me to download well woopdy fucking doo I'm happy bout that one. I dont think it can get any better then that release...do you? The nfo reads ..."As pointed out before in this nfo, SCuM is an old group refounded. We dont want to be another group at the front we just want to release what we like most ourselves, quality utils and applications." I guess they are still trying to achive that!! And what the fuck is "Another group at the front"?!? Note to scum boys...dont smoke crack and write nfo's, it's not a good thing! "Have Fun, Dont Die! - Poison/SCuM" Yeah...Ill try not to thanx...I wouldnt of figured that one out with out you guys thanks. Without that comment i would have had a boring life and died early but now that I have read that I'll have fun, and I'll NEVER EVER die!!! So in closing i leave you with another quote from SCUM nfo "WE ARE ALL HUMAN, BUT ONLY THE GREAT ONES CAN BE SCUM!" So why are there so many ppl in your group? I know your all not great! Time to kick some people out, actually kick all the people out. Go do something productive like Bingo or GinRummy. SIEGE Reviewed by: Grad Siege has been around quite a while and is best known as a group that caters to graphic and design aficionados. They have, by far, some of the best resources of any group (China Blue) and can buy/bribe just about anyone into doing what they want. **************The Key Member************** China Blue - this self-proclaimed robin hood of warez has tremendous wealth and influence. She was great working with but annoying as an opposition. She's a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type person that you don't want to catch in a bad mood. She is the top supplier of both hardware and software. *************The Followers************* Siege is rather large group with ~40 members (not including siteops). This is substantially larger than most other groups but is fine if they can manage and satisfy the constituents. ************The Software************ As I stated earlier, Siege is a predominantly graphics based group. Every group should have a mission statement and it seems that Siege's screams "GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS." Occasionally they'll get a few gems outside the graphics genre (about 15-20%). *********The Sites********* Siege has 12 sites listed in their nfo with the most notable being ET. Personally I question the siteops who consider siege as an affiliation. Why would anyone in their right mind pick Siege (other than for the name) when traders (who are the people that actually support sites) can get Siege releases from 12 other sites? Also, what about those 40+ users? Who wants to give them all leech? From Siege's point of view this was probably done out of necessity (and with bribes) due to their large membership base. ************The Crackers************ My favorite, the crackers. Siege has plethora of crackers. Flat Chicken, Kashmir/Only/Bspline (same person), Fuhrley, StPark, KrK, Wayward, OrionYoun, CrackZ, and probably a few others I forgot. Siege seems to think that they own these guys--just try to persuade one to leave and watch the reprimands fly from both s^j and china blue. thought people were raised to make their own decisions but such is not the case when you join Siege. My guess is that half these crackers were bought out by 'gifts' of hardware because as one cracker told me, "I have a debt to cb wherever she goes as long as she is in the scene." Take that for what it's worth. ***********************The Lame-Assed Couriers*********************** Recently Siege took a lame-assed courier into their ranks (Garoto). Depending on how you look at it: A) package deal with a site or site(s) B) desperation for site support (someone has to pre these 12 sites) C) both of the above My Take: A Stupid, myopic move. Traders should be no part of any group unless they can rip, package, and spread effectively. Brains helps too so that just rules out Mr. Seiko. Mr. Seiko probably thought that joining Siege he'd close in on my alltime record on ET. SORRY CHARLIE! TAKE A LOOK THE GAP IS GETTING WIDER. | 01 grad AOD COMPLETE AND UTTER DOMINATIO 9146 18GB 99K/s | 02 Garoto DEVOTiON DEVOTiON CLASS SiEGE 9502 13GB 182K/s **********Conclusion********** A big group with tons of cracking talent (regardless of how they were acquired), plenty of sites, and good suppliers. As long as China Blue remains a part of this group it remain among the top 3 or 4 groups. PENTIUM FORCE TEAM Reviewed by: Napalm Cognos.Impromptu.Web.Reports.v5.0.WinNT-PFT Reflection.for.ReGIS.Graphics.version.7.00.Win9xNT-PFT (10 file(s), 25mb) Attachmate.Management.Console.v4.1.and.Expert.Assistant.v1.0-PFT (28(38mb)) Cactus.Workbench.v3.72-PFT (22 file(s), 30.2234 mb) Java.Add-in.for.WinRunner.5.01-PFT (9 file(s), 12.4592 mb) Lost.and.Found.v1.00-PFT (1 file(s), 1.4873 mb) Novera.jBusiness.v4.0.for.WinNT-PFT (18 file(s), 23.7787 mb) Folio.Live.Publish.v5.for.WinNT-PFT (16 file(s), 43.5436 mb) Turbo.Tax98.for.Business-PFT (6 file(s), 16.0606 mb) Well, PFT had a pretty good week, with a lot of QUALITY over quantity which is nice to see for a change in the scene.Turbo Tax is an okay release, not really something people but more or less need to keep their finances in order. Folio Live Publish 5 was the highlight for me, it is a really nice nice app, one which I was a bit disappointed about being beaten on, but hey shit happens :/. Novera jBusiness 4 is also a nice title, and for me has to tie with Live Publish for their #1 release of the week, although maybe a bit specialized. Lost and Found, although not big in meggage is a really useful little util for recovering data, although the installation is a bit weird, since you must install from disks :/.The Java-addin for Winrunner just seems to enable a lot more functions most of us would never use anyway. Cactus WorkBench is a nice title, but a very minor update. Attachmate Management Console is another quality release, something I have come to expect from PFT. The Reflection app I am not too sure about, as a slightly diff ver was released as 7.01. Also good work on web reports, another nice app. Overall, a good week for PFT , 7.5/10. I think PFT are probably one of the better utils releasing groups on the scene today. Unlike some others (not mentioning any names) they seem to have a standard set for their releases, which is something good to see in the scene today, with it being the way it is. A lot of groups could learn something from PFT. ACE Reviewed by: Powertool Well, it looks as if these guys finally bit the bullet. Culture as well as Vantmas left this week and there is no real hope for them now. I know that a lot of sceners are not familiar with ACE, so I have decided to give you a little history about ACE. ACE started out as a curry group. Oh yeah, we had the elite sites like the DoggPound (Jman useta' beat my ass on it:P.) Later on, we decided we were gonna release utilities and get away from that lame thing called currying. We began to accumulate crackers and supplies daily. Many of the top sceners were in ACE upon my arrival. Some of these were woodson, techfuzz, gza, brainski, OlieW, keewee, marbitoz, avoozl and many others. We kept on releasing and releasing until culture left for a while. Culture's roomate Vasa took ACE by the helm and well, sunk ACE to the bottom of the sea. By this time, I was in F4CG (hiho mates) and was just an onlooker of a group of people who I spent a lot of fun nights with. ACE eventually split up. A few weeks/months later, REUNiTED was formed. REUNiTED did very poorly, so they decided to switch names back to ACE for a boost. With culture back and many new suppliers, ACE looked to have a bright future. They were releasing daily once again and had some very nice releases. Then, Vantmas leaves for RiSE. Culture stays around just for a about a week longer, then decides he is quitting the scene. So ACE now has no leader or well, in a nutshell, no chance. It's a shame to see this one go because I loved them all so much. Releases this week: N/A (Group has Died) Score: 10/10 for Effort! Best of luck to you all in your future endevors, wherever they may lead you to. PS: This was actually damn hard for me to write. I enjoyed my time with you all and we had some very memorable moments. You were my first real group and i will never forget you guys for it. Much love for everything... now time to put this biatch on ice. SODOM Reviewed by: Poison The comeback of Sodom some weeks ago completely surprised me, in a positive way. I have always liked this group and the members which it contained. They had some nice releases first 2 weeks of their new existence but after that it became a little quiet with them. I dont doubt that they will have many more releases though, because i know how much work it is to reform a group :). For now i wish them all the luck with the things they have to sort out (its a lot of work guys, but worth it) and i hope when thats done that we will see a lot more from a fine oldskool group, i am sure u guys will be a nice competition to other util groups. New this week: N/A Idle this week: N/A Quote(s) of the Week: this is taking FOREVER ^^^^^ Bones learns my pain :)) make sure u put in ur util report jess rox, k? hahaa sure :) consider it done All the reviews are untouched and unedited, exactly as I recieved them. So if they suck, at least I can't be blamed. It was interesting anyways... judge for yourself which were a success. There may even be a few people up there who could steal my job . It's all in jest and I hope you all took it that way. To be honest, I expected them to be a lot more biased, so some people got off pretty easy. There were a few other people who were going to be involved in this, but I either didn't get a chance to see tem in time or they didn't have time to finish, but thanks to everyone! Next week I'll be back with my normal report, but I suppose I should give my REAL thoughts as to the actual week of utils, briefly. When the dust settled after the past 7 days, DOD had suprised a LOT of people.. they appear to be back for another round, and if they can keep it up, they could really shake the utils scene (they have before). A lot of nice titles out of that camp this week. Also, congrats of sorts to PFT for getting PowerQuest's Lost & Found (recovery software) out... this thing had some nasty protection on it, which PFT cheated by WinImaging.. but it works (as long as you have a disk drive =]). This week also saw the resurgance of XFORCE.. at least to some extent, but several of the releases were a bit iffy. SGE and RISE were mostly idle, SGE doing the most recent build of Speed Razor on top of a few plugins, and Rise doing just one title after some internal reorganizing. For the rest of the pack, we saw some ups and downs... TRPS had a fair amount of releases, and SHOCK released a massive amount of apps, but neither had any real top quality titles. Entity was idle, and Manifest Destiny was suprisingly quiet compared to previous weeks. Corp had a decent run, with some Webtrends products including the new Security Analyzer 2 as well as some other decent apps, although a Canadian tax proggie really wasn't necessary. PRM also made their presence felt. Finally, LND, despite public opinion and contreversy, had a good week overall, with Visio 5 Enterprise and Autocad's Quickcad 6 Millenium. Anyways that about wraps things up for this edition... see ya next week! (With our strict deadline week = within the month of feb. ) - Bud =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= =---------[ Lester's Movie Reviews ]----------= Sure he's a prominent scene member, leader of the #1 courier group, and former "Miss Scene 1995".. But did you also know that in real life, Lester's real name is "Roger", and he hosts a popular syndicated television show, where he plays a big fatass who has nothing better to do with his time than go to every single movie ever released? Well.. now you know.. Movie Reviews No Movie Reviews this week.. Lester stayed at home and watched VCD's, and masturbated. =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= =---------[ VCD Group and Movie Reviews ]----------= VCD Group and Movie Review We would like to begin by explaining some of the common terms used in VCD releasing. These formats are: Telesync/TS: Telesync is a procam on a tripod in an empty theater with a separate audio source. If there's an audience, you hear people coughing, camera is shaky, etc. It's a CAM. CAM = banned. If you want a movie extremely early, Telesync is the way it will be. Workprint: Workprint is a pre-release copy of a movie, stolen copy, etc. that usually has the film running time on the screen. Screener: Screener is usually the BEST quality, an actual vcd of the movie, made from a reviewers copy, etc. Screener's are generally released after movies have left the theaters. Special Thanks to Ryche of EViLiSO for the education in VCD terms, and to come.to/vcddupe for keeping us up to date on the new titles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryche's Really Biased VCD Report #2 [2:28] well i dont want to spread misinformation This week saw alot of releases from the VCD scene, and we see a disturbing trend developing among the releasing groups and the sites that allow VCD's. This week, another new *sigh* VCD group appeared and released The Thin Red Line. As I write this on Sunday morning, the VCD is over 3 days old.. and CD3 is STILL NOT COMPLETE ANYWHERE!! Has it been nuked by siteops? Fuck no. Theyre excuse? "Well its a good movie.." So fucking what? I guess release groups can take as long as they want to release a movie now. This is the second week in a row something like this has happened, and last week Centropy was punished with a well-deserved nuke for not releasing the .rar file of thier release of The Minion last week (Although, to thier credit, they did finally release 3 days later). Siteops: Wake The Fuck Up! Hold VCD releasing groups to the same rules you hold ISO groups. If they cant release correctly, they shouldnt even be releasing. You complain about crap releases taking up your precious gigs, but you'll let a 3CD movie sit incomplete for 4 days? Other than that, an overall good week for VCD's and the groups that release them. Releases for the Week of 1/31/99 - 2/06/99 013199 A Civil Action (35MM/EViLISO) (See Review) 013199 In Dreams (Telesync/EViLISO) (See Review) 020199 From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money (Screener/EViLISO)(See Review) 020299 Shadrach (Screener/Centropy) 020299 Varsity Blues (Telesync/EViLISO) (See Review) 020399 Bride of Chucky (Screener/FiZ) (See Review 020399 Antz (Screener/VCD-Europe) 020499 The Waterboy (Screener/HighSpeed) 020699 The Progeny (Screener/VHS) [NUKED] Subspecies 4 (Screener/Centropy) [NUKED] The Thin Red Line (35MM/HighSpeed) -VCD-Europe- A relatively slow week for VCD-Europe but they did manage to spit out Antz which is an all computer animated movie and did well at the box office. The only other copy on the net was a shitty telesync so props for releasing this. HOWEVER, it does come out on video Tues. Feb. 9, in the US (hmm..same time as NWR? :P) so whatever props you got for releasing it, I take back cuz you released it so late. Total - 1 Point -EViLISO- Good week for EViLISO. 4 Movies in one week, and all good titles. Dusk Till Dawn 2 is SUPPOSEDLY going straight to video but not before late march so good job no matter what people say. Civil Action I hear is blurry, and Varsity Blues theyve admitted you can hear people laughing in some parts, so -1 points for fucking up there. For the week tho, they did good and put out movies people want. Total - 4 Points -FiZ- Havent heard much from FiZ lately so its nice to have a different group to review. Bride of Chucky was the last installment of the killer doll series with Jennifer Tilly and her large breastesses. Decent release, and we didnt have to wait 7 days for them to finish uploading. Hope we see more from this lesser-known group in the future. Total - 2 Points -Centropy- Well last week I was a little harsh on Centropy for not releasing that .rar file for 3 days. I usually write my report on Sunday (No, not on Tues. night like the rest of the staff) and when I wrote that, the file wasnt out. They did however finally release it late on Monday like they promised but it still took them a dog's age to complete it. Ill give you a 1/2 Point for following through on your promises tho. This week they released Shadrach which is a family movie starring Harvey Keitel (figure that one out) and Subspecies 4 which is already out on Video in the US and was consequently nuked. If you dont know by now, Subspecies is about the worst direct-to-video Vampire story ever made, so with the fourth installment being nuked, dont think your missing out. Total - 2.5 Points -VHS (Videoholics)- VHS released The Progeny on Saturday night, just before my report deadline. What is it? Its a future video-only horror movie directed by Brian Yuzna who has made a few good ones in the past that I cant recall (short-term) right now. This group is one who wishes to remain anonymous, but since they continue to release, I say no dice. TFAiSO which up until just recently used to release under thier own name, pre's VHS releases and quite a few Centropy/TFAiSO members seem to know alot about them. If your really curious about this *ahem* unknown group, I suggest you pick thier brains about it, not mine. Total - 2 Points -HighSpeed- Who the hell are HighSpeed? Remember last week when I listed the current VCD releasing players and said "with various groups rearing thier ugly head to throw shit in the game"? Bingo. Supposedly a 2 man wondergroup who actually had 2 great releases with one large problem. They dont know how to pre. Once again, 3 days after their "35MM" release, which is actually a Telesync, it's still incomplete on every site including the one they pre'd to. If your going to release to major sites, pre right. You dont start a release, go to sleep if you get tired, do a little more, go idle for a day and expect any self-respecting site to wait on your lazy ass. Thanks to this, your 2 great releases knocked you down to one good one with a penalty point for being lazy. And I got through that without making fun of the irony of their name. :) Total - 1 Point Altogether it was a pretty good week for VCD, filling in with lots of gigs for traders and sites in one of the slowest times of the year. Our second group of the week award goes to EViLISO for thier number of releases and movie selection. Centropy despite their nuke comes in second for fixing their screw-up last week, but I fear theyve started a trend by taking so long to release. FiZ and VHS each come in with horror movie screeners with FiZ's being the prefered one to download. Our dumbass of the week award (should we call it "The Centropy"?) goes to HighSpeed for going on vacation during a pre. Click my banners... Ryche ----------------------------------------------- Shakespeare in Love - 01/22/99 - Telesync - IGN - 2 Discs Video Quality: Not incredibly great, a dim kind of bland picture, but not overall bad quality. No people moving or other harsh problems. Rating: 3 Audio Quality: Again, nothing special or bad here Rating: 3 1/2 Movie Quality: Again, a movie I had not yet seen, but was interested in seeing. It is indeed good, but best picture of the year would be a stretch indeed. None the less, it's a good romantic comedy and I recommend getting it Rating: 4 Review by Lester ------------------------ Varsity Blues - 02/02/99 - Telesync - EViLiSO - 2 Discs Video Quality: Pretty good, I have seen better from this group though, no complaints on the video side. Rating: 3 1/2 Audio Quality: Now we run into the goof up of the week. :) There's some snickering and laughter during the comic scenes of the movie, and the occassional talking that you catch. It's not too bad since you are probably laughing at the same time they are, but you will still notice it. So they lose points for that, but it's still less noisy than being in a theatre. And 2 cd's is cheaper than 7.50 admission anyday. Movie Quality: Good movie, I saw it in the theatre and now here, so I say it's worth it. Rating: 4 Review by Lester ------------------------ Review for Childs Play 4 Screener : Chucky's Bride Quality = Good. No glitches or sound interferences, Though there is the Property of Universal thing that swings by 3-4 times during the movie, which didn't bother me at all. Quick Review = Chucky's back and now he has a doll sized bitch to help him. There is some comedy in this horror movie, and its definately worth seeing if you haven't already seen it before. Review by MGD ----------- A Civil Action - 1/31/99 - 35MM TS - EViLiSO - 2 Discs Video Quality: Well, I must say I'm disappointed in the groups offering of this film. It's not bad if you dont goto full screen, but if you do then it's Letterboxed and blurry. Rating: 2 Audio Quality: Audio is fine. Rating: 3 Movie Quality: I like this movie, and Robert Duvall and William H. Macy deliver 2 great performances, but I'd suggest trying to get to the theater before it's gone. Fin! =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[Interview with Slice]----------- : For the record, please state your current and past affils. oh geeze lester.. ok.. one sec PCW, NVC, FATE, RAPIER, ATOMIC, CONCORD, EMPIRE, AMNESIA past affils current affils: Razor 1911, Risc, Rise Let's start by talking about Rise, in the past 3 days, they have made some big acquisitions. Lester from Siege, Bones and the Entity crew, Knoweffex, Billdo from LND. etc, You have to be pleased with this, but did you forsee all of this happening? I have been vying to make RISE the number 1 utils group for quite awhile, our cards played in right this time and we cashed in big time. Not only has RISE as a whole gained from these acquisitions, but the people who joined are extremly happy to be in our innovative little group Rise has long been respected for releasing high quality apps, but it's always been infrequent, and long has Rise been up and down with weeks at a time of no releases. Is Rise looking to become an everyday release group with these recent moves? Everyday is not the key, as many beleive in the scene. RISE has never been the group to release 20 titles a day, or gigs per week. We look at the apps we have, the apps we will get in the future, and decide which we will release Everything we do is based upon the standard fact that we want to be the HIGHEST quality utils group availble to the user base. Every crack we do is just a little bit better then our competitors, every title we release in turn is just that much better. Perfection is what we are after. Not releasing daily. Rise has also had a very large membership base and isn't known for kicking members very often, but with all the recent pickups, are you worried Rise will get too big for it's own good? RiSE has always been a very very large family. We have members from all over the world! Once a member is accepted into RISE.. it is a commitment by the group to that person as well as a commitment by that person to the group. It is important that we maintain our family style atmosphere and dont turn RISE into a business. We do remove people as they start not showing up, or if they violate group policy.. or violate their responsibilities.. because that is lacking on your commitment to the group. Other then that, we encourage our members to have fun, and enjoy the ride :) Looking back on the Pro Mechanica release you guys did, you received alot of praise for that, but then you received alot of flak for putting out the Dec Alpha version. Why did you choose to release that version, knowing virtually all sites would nuke it? And looking back now, would you still have done it? Parametric Technologies releases products to be used by a very exclusive group of people. To forgo an operating system that would benefit our userbase, and ignore our email message boxes is not in our best interest. Regardless of site policy on DEC alpha systems, if the demand is there for the release, RISE will release it based upon its quality value. Moving on, you have been fiercely loyal to Razor and Rise, and up until recently Risc, but in the not too distant past. You changed groups quite often, what finally instilled a sense of loyalty in you? hahahaha :) Well, quite frankly, in the previous groups I was affiliated with, I didnt find a group of people I could hang with on a regular basis :). RiSE works perfect becuase I get to pick and choose who I want to hang with :). Razor has some awesome people and so does RISC regardless of what people say about it today :). Well that and I enjoyed being in lots of different groups and leading the rushing charge :) GOO RAPIER!! :) Well none can argue the desire to remain loyal to a group such as Razor, and then Rise goes without saying since you are a leader. But let's touch on Risc. A few weeks ago you left Risc, but as of a few days ago you returned to senior status. What was the story behind that? * Slice ponders Should I retire from RISE for a few weeks? :). . I have done it before i take breaks from my affils just as anyone else does.. the RISC break was a bit more official. Well, you have gone ahead and returned to Risc, but what do you think of the Risc of today, you've been around long enough to watch their downward spiral. So what do you think of the Risc we see today and who is at the head of it? Risc takes alot of flak from alot of different people for in my opinion the wrong reasons. * Slice grins Risc is at the forefront of the courier field regardless of what people say about it It is the grand daddy of couring, and the group has amazing depth. The reason I remain in Risc is because I beleive in quality, and regardless what people say, what I see every day in their channel.. is quality minded people. :) Cmon, who doesnt love scans antics? :P I just believe your being politically correct here, because if your willing to say that the recent pickups by Risc are reminiscient of quality minded people, then you need to retire for awhile for sure. And also, if Risc has such amazing depth, why do they proceed to recruit seemingly anyone and everyone they can? Hrmm.. Quite honestly, I am not involved in day to day operations of RISC. You know I dont play the courier game that much any more :). I have been there, done that.. even from a leaders perspective for a short period of time. I hold my own opinions about couring in general .. because I used to be a courier myself :). The courier scene is tragically flawed now a days. you would have to agree with that ;) Is it true Rise is based around Chicago and the council of Rise meets together often for gay orgies? hrmm You will have to ask toth for an answer to that question I'll assume thats a yes. Returning to Razor, they have been taking some slack from less respectful members of the scene for not releasing alot and for some recent betas and things. The old scene members continue to respect the Blade for being The Blade, but what is happening with Razor and where does the future stand? Razor 1911 has a strong future regardless of what people say. People talk continuously in the courier and game scenes and it just causes problems and develops into fights. Razor has amazing potential, an amazing membership role, and some of the coolest mother fuckers you will meet. They are working to fix certain issues. thats all I can say. I support Razor through high and low EVERY group goes through its high and low times. Thats how it works. What are your personal plans for the future? Well, Jenna Jameson doesnt return my calls... I REALLY want to star in a porno :P. might be better off callin toth about those gay orgies.. * Slice laughs as I said, talk to Toth about those :) No future plans... scene life is played day to day So how big is your dick then? just a Slice? or the whole Pie? Ask Jenna Jameson that question :P And what kind of a lame handle is Slice anyways?:) that soda sucks hahaha what kind of name is lester? i'm asking the questions here but if you must know It's from Skate or Die i was 8 i'm loyal to my name Slice was a nick I choose because I couldnt think of anything else i had the soda in front of me go figure :P One final question...is it Lemon Lime Slice? or Orange? Lemon Lime ALL THE WAY Alright sprite..er i mean slice..i'd like to thank your sick ass for taking the time to talk to us here at NWR any greets?:) Greets fly to the RISE crew.. you guys are DA SHIT. Razor 1911.. Ohh yah baby... sharper then a blade.. or your money back! And of course RISC.. .. Huge greets to the risc staff and crew.. and of course NWR :). the only mag I read weekly. :) Interview conducted by Lester, while waiting for Ndetroit to finish the magazine. =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[Pray for a Scene Friend]----------- We would like to send our best wishes and prayers to Acidapple, of Devotion, Blizzard, and co-siteop of TMS. He is currently in the hospital and suffering from gastro-intestinal disease. We have spoken with him and he is recovering and hopefully we will be able to see him online and back to his normal self as soon as possible. He's already been asking for a shell to start trading again. :) Anyways, everyone send their best wishes to him if you see him or direct them to NWR and we will try to get them to him. -The NWR Staff =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[An Unflattering Log of a "Big" Fan]----------- Well, I had originally planned never to print this out of respect for Chinablue and Siege itself. Now some things have changed. I idled ever since the day of this talk, waiting to make peace with china, which never came about. I don't slander China because I still respect her for her contributions to DMS and many other groups. But, I will say the way she handled me and the way Siege handled me was inappropriate. Yesterday, which was Saturday, in case NWR comes out on Tuesday again. I was told that I either needed to quit Siege or be removed, or get involved. So I told them I would leave of my own free will and had been planning to do so anyways, but I stayed out of loyalty to friends like David & Goliath and Snapz and SJ and the like. So now my destiny was sealed. I figured fine, it ends well. I get to leave and they are happy as well. But evening time rolls around and I haven't yet quit because I would like to say goodbye to my friend D&G, and so I reboot and when i come back, I'm no longer on the Siege bots. No one msgs me or tells me I am not a member any longer. And now today, it is being sent around that I was kicked out. So I print this only to clear the air. Siege did the same kind of thing to Unclejohn, and not many people noticed. Maybe now a few people will notice. Session Start: Fri Jan 08 03:22:42 1999 yeh about that utils report in NWR.. d0h i dont care im not reading NWR anymore if you are going to stop reading NWR simply because siege wasn't ranked #1 for a week, I am extremely disappointed in you..I mean it WILL happen..Siege will lost to a group every now and again..:) oh bullshit lester and you know it i didnt give a damn about siege's rankings not in that bullshit report then I dont see what the problem is the problem was what your bud sed haha did you see what rise released? bud doesn't use lightwave plugins big woop it was nuked on every site ya they beat us on pro mechanica and they put out some stupid hospital shit too it was a dec alpha pro mechanica was a dec alpha not for pc n e way i dont have to justify my opinion to you your rag is biased and its based on bullshit i dont wanna read it enuf sed laugh..you are beginning to take certain things far too seriously..the mag is for comedy..the utils report is the least biased of them all in my opinion..cuz bud is shock and he knows they aren't competing for #1 wutever, that's your right as the head of the mag i wont read it alot of people aren't reading it anymore n e way is that so? that's why i am msged by more ppl than i can count for when it will be out?:) if you dont like nwr, so be it..i can't make everyone happy wutever lester dont let delusions of grandeur go to your head =) but I dont see the justification..Rise gets a good rating and siege gets almost the same rating..and so nwr is tainted forever it's a scene emag..it is no grandeur but I know people like it no lester your boy fucked up admit and you'll go further he gave a great grand rating to a group that released a HUGE release so what? maybe he did? he still rated corp above siege too :) that was nuked cuz it wasn't even a pc program oh gimee a break good for corp u sound like a corp boy anyway maybe you'll be happier over there? oh why thank you you want me to leave? nah i dont really care one way or the other well that makes me feel better good you shouuld feel better n e way cyaz Session Close: Fri Jan 08 03:31:09 1999 =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[#releases is back!]----------- The channel that is near and dear to the hearts of many many scene members, #releases, is making a comeback! KFLEX has guaranteed to restore the channel to its former glory, when it was the leetest channel on efnet ... At its peak, it was home to more than 300 leetos, lamers, and... at least a few feds... Ahhh.. the good old days... !dupe Quake ok.. like... how do i get the releases now, man? the bot's not giving them to me!!! wtf??/ this channel fucking sucks!!!! Heh.. the good old days.. Seriously tho, i am told now that riches and sparc are even peacefully idling in the same channel together now, so... that alone is worth the price of admission.. ;) Good luck to KFlex, and the rest of the #releases ops... stop by there and chill.. i'm sure you'll see a few faces that haven't turned up in a good year or so... ;) -ndetroit =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[The Scene News]----------- All the news thats fit to print... and then some... -Hey... acidapple is sick, so that fucking sucks. But you heard it here first: acidapple will get better, get a net connection, get a shell, and make the comeback of the year... and he will own you all.. -Well, after going out to the store, and actually BUYING sc3k (yeah, i'm so leet), i have decided that whatever they say it was, OGN's sc3k was not the store final.. who knows wtf it was.. Class's version was the same as the one i got outta my shrink-wrap, so.. I think that pretty much settles it, and i'm sure we won't hear anything else about this, any more....... ..... (yeah, right) -if there are any congressmen reading this right now (and i know there are at least a few of you!) then hey: don't impeach the muthafuckin' president, man! We don't want no muthafuckin al gore... The dude was quoted the other day, busting out: "the message is clear to all those pirates out there... DON'T copy that floppy!"..... man... al gore is just gonna be FLOORED when he finds out about the ISO scene... -Lester and his bitch, Tdpriest have jumped ship from wherever they were, and hooked up with RiSE.. now i was told that tdp was retired, so that he could concetrate on taking nude pics of jess... now someone tells me he is in RiSE?? ... omg... could this mean the return of the machine?.... -Karl is a whiny bitch, and TAW took #risciso just to prove how useless the dude is... 2 scoops of raisins to TAW, they GAVE it back after a bit.... ... no, Karl didn't get it back... ;p -2 Groups picked up a ridiculous amount of members this week, Rise and 2000ad... Check out all of 2kad's pick ups at: www.loke.org/2000AD In particular, they got madboy, tk4, rantnrave, and duranaged(!) Check out Rise... well.. never mind.. Half the scene is in Rise now, Just ask someone you know, they are probably a member.. -group moves: Lester to RiSE, tdpriest to RiSE, knoweffex to Rise, all of ENTity to RiSE, Mrlefteye to scum, billdo to rise, leddy to DMS, hfb/kruzin/vantmas kicked from rise, slice to RiSC, dual leaves DSi and XF, hfb to pnc, -Blackacid has a nice new layout... damn lot better than that purple and black shit he had going on before... but i still prefer the oldschool white background, from the good old days... -Someone please castrate that airbrush dude. -Why does this fucking mag keep coming out on tuesday?? grrr! -That whole PNC/FTD stolen releases thing?? Wake the fuck up, people.. EASY = PWA. PNC didn't steal the fax release... FTD = who are they? aren't they a florist company? just in time for valentines day.. leet. -Not much else to say... ciao, babe. -sky masterson =----------------------------------=----------------------------------------= --------[Stories from the Watercooler]---------- Ahh yes, rumors, we all love them even though we love to say how much we hate them when they are about us. And these are some of the better ones circulating around this week. Email us or find us on irc if you have a good rumor you'd like entered, your name will not be included, but we do not add rumors like that say "Tdpriest is having anal sex with Fusion" because we know that Fusion is only having sex with Xtremist and therefore there is no hard evidence of that rumor, so if you have real rumors, let us know. Let's begin! -Rumor has it that XFROG was kicked from AoD, for leaking AODFTP to RiSC. XFROG later joined risc, who has been DOMINATING ever since they have had the use of the 3l33t util, "AoDfTP"... -Rumor has it that the ultraHLE coders will not stop until they have a 100% compatability rate... stick it to the man, baby... -Rumor has it that mgd is currently inactive because most of his time is spent shooting for the new skymasterson movie, "Warez!"... mgd plays the part of "bizzy", a lonely automaton trader who finds love and meaning in his life when he meets up with "darkdruid", a sexy female trader, played by angelina jolie. =-------------------------------------=--------------------------------------= Well friends.. Thats about it. If you've read this far, we sincerly thank you. We like to know this thing gets read, so if you get the time, drop one of us a quick msg, and tell us what you think, give us suggestions, tell us it sucks, or just say "hi" to us!.... Greets fly out to: jaydee, mgd, stix, tdp, hr, eci, jamili, raptor, skill, mandrake, zeus, speedy, subzero, superfly@okcomputer, wu-dave, dee, sj, bud, prozac, bernis, paledeth, duranged, tech+his crew, Kusa, ssava, CRC 97, acidapple, and all the rest of you that we love... Find us on IRC in #nwr, (channel commands: !nwr, !nwr 23 or whatever issue you want. We can't afford email, so we just steal CWS's... ;) Support NWR and CWS, and email your weektops to: cws_2000@yahoo.com Thank you! take care.. peace. -ndetroit + lester. NWR 2/09/98