TSRO Stone: Good Evening !!! TSRO Stone: Welcome to tonight's discussion on Planescape, TSR's somewhat new TSRO Stone: plane-spanning gamng world. TSRO Stone: Planescape is a new world, a world that was designed to not only bridge the TSRO Stone: gaps between the current worlds, but, to also give Players and DM's a place TSRO Stone: of infinite possibilities: TSRO Stone: If you can think it, it can happen in Planescape !! TSRO Stone: Planescape adds many different things to 2nd Edition AD&D. New races, TSRO Stone: new creatures, and, most importantly, The Factions. TSRO Stone: Factions are groups that populate the planes, all with different beliefs about TSRO Stone: how and what the mulit-verse are. All with a plan on how to make things TSRO Stone: 'better'....... TSRO Stone: tonight will be intro, q&A, and an announcment TSRO Stone: most will be Q&A TSRO Stone: we are gonna enforce protocols, if you are unfamiliar with them, please go read them TSRO Stone: under the Seminar hading in the 'NEW' area TSRO Spock: (Please use ! or ? to add your name to the Question/Comment Queue) TSRO Spock: (Please have your question/comment typed and ready to go!) TSRO Stone: people violating this protocol will be cited for a TOS violation TSRO Stone: Due to technical difficulties, the seminar is in this room TSRO Stone: right now TSRO Stone: okay first things first...... TSRO Stone: PLANESCAPE TSRO Stone: we can start with questions now Lithindrym: ? and ! TSRO Spock: Stone do you want me to keep the queue? TSRO Stone: wait TSRO Stone: Spock, keep the queue, Geoff bounce TSRO Stone: before we start, Durrick is TSRO Jhem out of uniform FrankM5223: ? TSRO Spock: Question from Lith... TSRO Stone: and he has a few comments TSRO Stone: hold the questions for a second please TSRO Stone: Durrock, go ahead Durrock: First.. thanks for coming folks :) I do apologize for the tech difficulties.. :) Durrock: Hopefully we'll get those sorted out and working by next week :) Durrock: An announcement.... about the schedule for next week's seminar.. Durrock: Next week's seminar will be on Dragonlance... Durrock: Details will be posted as soon as they are ironed out.. ;) Durrock: I won't hold you up any longer... Stone, Geoff, Spock... make me proud :) Lithindrym: ? and ! TSRO Spock: Sure will Dur...:) Ethellon: ? TSRO Spock: Queue: Lith, Ethellon, FrankM TSRO Stone: Lith ? Lithindrym: Okay, Wuick question here: What is this for? Discussion of products, upcoming releases, Matman5150: Does anyone know the name of the font which is planescape's trademark? Lithindrym: what? Are we going to be discussing Abyssal Lords and Archons? Or the Lords? What is the TSRO Stone: general discussion of Planescape, some giveaways, and an announcment Lithindrym: deal?. Kaptinkarl: ? Lithindrym: Giveaways? Interesting. Thanxs for clarifying that. Will27: ? Adlor: ? TSRO Stone: Ethellon ? Thyri: ? Ethellon: I'd like some reccomendations on priests of gods without specific planes or with all- Lithindrym: ? Ethellon: encompassing planes like Krynn's HighGod or Io the Ninefold Dragon /end TSRO Stone: well, according to the Planescape suppliments,.... most all powers are tied to a plane TSRO Stone: there aren't any I can think of that aren't tied to a home plane BloodyMage: WHAT D&d meeting TSRO Stone: you could choose to worship a 'generic' power of some sort, war, healing, etc... Brandor123: check please i got to run Ishtar MM: That's what I thought but I couldn't find it Mr lich101: ? Lithindrym: ? TSRO Stone: next ? Ethellon: ? TSRO Spock: Queue: FrankM, Kaptinkarl, Will27, Adlor, Thyri, Lith, Xaosar, Mr lich101 Ishtar MM: be right back CalmThundr: Hey stone....did you send me a message earlier? Kaptinkarl: what kind of giveaways? TSRO Stone: well, I have a few items that will help those that dont know anything about Planescape TSRO Stone: to get 'in the know' TSRO Stone: they will be given out after while Kaptinkarl: oh ok /end TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Kaptinkarl, Will27, Adlor, Thyri, Lith, Xaosar, Mr lich101 TSRO Stone: that was Kaptinkarl TSRO Stone: Will27, go ahead Will27: Is there any plans for a work that talks about all the old de*** lords? (ex Orcus,Asmodeus) TSRO Spock: Sorry...::blushing:: TSRO Stone: ;-) LilMunchie: ? TSRO Stone: Discussion of Demons and such are now against TSR's code of ethics,..... I would be suprised TSRO Stone: to see them return in anything but name only CalmThundr: What is the TSR code of ethics? TSRO Stone: as re-introducing them as they were would go against the code of ethics Kaptinkarl: ? TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Adlor, Thyri, Lith, Xaosar, Mr lich101, LilMunchie Ethellon: ? TSRO Stone: Adlor ? Adlor: I have notseen any of the Planescape material, would it be easy to introduce a FR campaign Adlor: planescape and how would you do itZ? TSRO Stone: Adlor, you dont have any Planescape stuff at all ???? Adlor: no HAL9064: ? Adlor: But I was thinking about buying the bow set. TSRO Stone: now you do, enjoy a complimentary copy of the Planescape Boxed set from your pals at TSR Adlor: Ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adlor: How would you introduce FR into PS Sho 2: Stoney. I don't have any Planescape material either.....Sniff..... TSRO Stone: Introducing Planescape to an existing world can be as easy or as hard as you want TSRO Stone: all the core rules are the same TSRO Stone: as both are 2nd Edition AD&D Adlor: Thanks for the set! TSRO Stone: the DM would need to do alot of reading to get the feel for the world Will27: ? TSRO Stone: Planescape has its own unique flavor that sets it apart from everywhere else TSRO Stone: characters will move over easily TSRO Stone: in my experience, it was easy TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Stone: Thyri ???? ;-) Thyri: Who/what is the Lady of Pain, and what is her/it's purpose? Sakkra4: ? Adlor: ? TSRO Stone: The Lady of pain is the ruler of Sigil, the city of doors TSRO Stone: she is cloaked in mystery, there has purposely been little info published on her TSRO Stone: to keep her mysterious TSRO Stone: her purpose is two fold TSRO Stone: in game terms, she is the 'power' that keeps the city of Sigil a diety free zone TSRO Stone: in real terms, she's the DM's stick, used on bad PC's Thyri: So, is she a diety? TSRO Stone: as she can do very bad things to a PC TSRO Stone: that is unknown TSRO Stone: in the suppliments, she is rumored to be a greater Tanar'ri TSRO Stone: that has trancended to godhood TSRO Stone: but that is only a rumor Kaptinkarl: what suplement is that TSRO Stone: that answer your question Thyri ? Thyri: Yes, thank you Stone......:-) -end TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Stone: next ? BloodyMage: ? TSRO Stone: Lith ? Lithindrym: Abyssal Lords: How might one become one and what spheres do Abyssal Lord Worshippers get Kaptinkarl: ?? Lithindrym: Their spells from? lets Take Graz'zt and Pazrael as examples. Lithindrym: And How does the Tanar'ri Hierarchy work? Lithindrym: (more questions on the way) TSRO Stone: did we have too much sugar tonight Lith ???? TSRO Stone: well, how you become one is up to your DM Lithindrym: How does an Abyssal Lord "divert" other god's worshippers to their cause? TSRO Stone: they divert worshipers by offering people something they want,.. ie a mage powerful magic TSRO Stone: there are always people out there looking for an easy way to big power Cvallas737: what setting is an "Abyssal Lord " from? TSRO Stone: that is the way of life in the Abyss, might makes right TSRO Stone: they fight each other for power TSRO Stone: the more fights you win,..... the stroner you get...... Graz'zt is at the pinnacle after eon TSRO Stone: of strife TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Stone: next ? TSRO Stone: Lith , do you have any Planescape stuff ? BloodyMage: ? Lithindrym: Yes Stone, I have everything but the NEW MC (PS MC #2, I have the first) TSRO Stone: you have it now TSRO Stone: compliments of TSR TSRO Spock: Queue: Xaosar, Mr lich101, Lilmunchie, HAL9064, Will27, Sakkra4, Adlor, BloodyMage, Kaptinkarl Lithindrym: Wa-Hoo!!!! Ethellon: ! TSRO Stone: Mr lich101 ? Mr lich101: You said that all the realms are some what connected. So can I worship any god from any HAL9064: ? Mr lich101: realms or what? TSRO Stone: No, you can not.... Mr lich101: Oh I was very confussed TSRO Stone: although the worlds are connected via the planes, the distances and the presence of powers TSRO Stone: in those places makes it difficult for powers to hold sway over multiple planes TSRO Stone: hence, no St. Cuthbert in F.R., no Mystra in Greyhawk TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Lilmunchie, HAL9064, Will27, Sakkra4, Adlor, BloodyMage, Kaptinkarl, Ethellon TSRO Stone: lilmunchie ? Mr lich101: Oh I see. I have not gotten a good look at the stuff from Planescape because my friend those Mr lich101: not let me see his box set very much. LilMunchie: What kind of effect will Chronomacy have on Planescape. Can you actually Travel through it?? LilMunchie: I have no idea where to start... TSRO Stone: I havent read the Chronomancer stuff yet so I wont comment on it Ethellon: ! TSRO Stone: but in my experience, time passes differently in thePlanes Balor St: ? LilMunchie: Are they"relms" or "dimensions"??? TSRO Stone: unpredictible results LilMunchie: "Realms" TSRO Stone: may occur TSRO Stone: both, and neither LilMunchie: Uhhh???? Ganklin: ? TSRO Stone: well, what is the definition of realms and dimensions ? LilMunchie: I dunno... LilMunchie: Isn't a dimenson a different plane of existence?? TSRO Stone: something to ponder TSRO Stone: sometimes LilMunchie: Geez.... LilMunchie: I guess I'm done. Thanx guys!! /end TSRO Spock: Never thought it would be that complicated, right Lil...;) TSRO Stone: most dimension spells tap into the astral plane, which is also a Realm TSRO Spock: HAL9064 had the next question...:) HAL9064: Is there anything more to the Zactars than their worship of Umbra? And in a related question TSRO Stone: as there are creatures living and stuff there TSRO Stone: -end HAL9064: is the Factol's Manifesto a good buy? TSRO Spock: HAL9064 had the next question...:) TSRO Stone: the Factols Manifesto is a great buy if you plan on having the Factions involved at all in TSRO Stone: your game TSRO Stone: it explains alot more than the boxed set does. HAL9064: I heard some good stuff about it, but I waned to make sure. Lithindrym: ? TSRO Stone: for those of you that dont know what the factions are TSRO Stone: they are a group of like minded creatures that share a 'view' of the multiverse TSRO Stone: think about it, if you can walk through Arborea and visit the Elven Court TSRO Stone: you really can disagree that the gods are real TSRO Stone: and have power TSRO Stone: the Factions try to make sense of things by looking at them through TSRO Stone: their view of things TSRO Stone: I like the factions alot because it takes things from a good vs evil conflict to TSRO Stone: a philosophical war of views TSRO Stone: good and evil are secondary in most cases...... TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Stone: Annoncment Time TSRO Stone: TSR will be running an introductory Planescape game in our new room TSRO Stone: the game will be Wednesday nights 9-11 EST TSRO Stone: everyone is welcome to play TSRO Stone: but, only 6 people at a time TSRO Stone: if you want to play, create a level 1 character of any sort, from any world TSRO Stone: and e-mail it to me TSRO Stone: I will look it over and you will be told if it is okay TSRO Stone: we'll do a waiting list and such for those that dont get into the original 6 people TSRO Stone: we will also give prizes for playing HAL9064: Thanks, what about the Zactars? (the PS game sounds great) /end TSRO Stone: so, .. if youv'e always wanted to play Planescape but cant find anyone to game with..... TSRO Stone: here's your chance !!!!! TSRO Stone: good question HAL, let me do some more research TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Will27, has the next question...:) HAL9064: Thanx Will27: The Neutral planes don't seem to have the heavy hitters that the good and evil planes Will27: do does this mean that most of the battles between say batezu and solars happen there HAL9064: ? TSRO Stone: I agree, they dont .. But that is more a result of the polarization of people's beliefs TSRO Stone: there are more good or evil people than true neutrals TSRO Stone: and, those battles take place wherever necessary TSRO Stone: not just in the neutral planes TSRO Stone: -end Will27: Thanks -end Will27: ? TSRO Spock: Sakkra4 has the next question...:) TSRO Stone: next ? TSRO Stone: Sakkra ? Sakkra4: Who or what could start the next great war to ripe across the multiverse? And could Sakkra4: a strong group of adventurers time travel back and stop the ascesion of some deities? /end TSRO Thar: ! TSRO Stone: any name diety could stop that from happening as they have power over time also..... TSRO Stone: As much as we'd like to get rid of Midnight.... wont happen that way.... TSRO Stone: AS for the next great war of the Planes,....... I think the BLood War is about it TSRO Stone: the major powers wouldn't let a fuyll scale war start TSRO Stone: the Blood War is tolerated because it only involves the Tanar'ri and Bataezu TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Adlor, BloodyMage, Kaptinkarl, Ethellon, Balor St, Ganklin, Lithindrym, LilMunchie TSRO Spock: HAL9064, Will27, TSRO Thar TSRO Stone: Adlor ? Adlor: Sigil is where all the character's start, right? If so don't all the different peoples Adlor: have a lot of conflicts Adlor: How does Sigil keep the peace... TSRO Stone: well, not all people start in Sigil, it is a convenient jumping off point TSRO Stone: as for conflicts,..... the Lady of Pain doesnt allow strife in the city Adlor: how does she stop it? TSRO Stone: well, she uses her abilities Will27: ! Adlor: Thanks, I really need to read that box set :) TSRO Stone: and she has the factions to police the city TSRO Stone: especially the Harmonium TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: BloodyMage, Kaptinkarl, Ethellon, Balor St, Ganklin, Lithindrym, LilMunchie, HAL9064 TSRO Spock: Will27, TSRO Thar TSRO Stone: BloodyMage ? BloodyMage: What is the basics behind plainscape and what makes it different from the other worlds? TSRO Stone: the basics are: Planescape is the new definition of the planes other than the Prime planes TSRO Stone: it can be used as a link between existing worlds TSRO Stone: or, it can stand on it's own Sakkra4: ? BloodyMage: Would you say that Plainscape is worth the money? Smaugipfoc: no BloodyMage: Were could i buy a copy? TSRO Stone: it is different most of all for the fact that you can do whatever you can imagine TSRO Geoff: ! Smaugipfoc: bring back GReyhawk TSRO Stone: As for is it worth it,.. I think so, I find it very well done and interesting BloodyMage: Sounds pretty cool. TSRO Stone: you can get it from the TSR Online store, or any local hobby store TSRO Stone: -end BloodyMage: For how much? Adlor: gotta go... Thanks for the prize! TSRO Stone: about 30 TSRO Spock: Queue: Kaptinkarl, Ethellon, Balor St, Ganklin, Lithindrym, LilMunchie, HAL9064, Will27 TSRO Stone: Kaptinkarl ? Kaptinkarl: what supplement is the one you refered to(lady of pain = tannari)? TSRO Spock: TSRO Thar, Sakkra4 TSRO Stone: that was in the boxed set.... the In The Cage suppliment keeps her origins secret Kaptinkarl: what is the tieflings native language? Kaptinkarl: coommon or tiefling TSRO Stone: depends on it's parentage TSRO Stone: if it was raised on the Abyss,... probally a plane based common TSRO Stone: based on geography TSRO Stone: for ease of use, I'd make it common TSRO Stone: -end Kaptinkarl: is the factols manifesto still in print? cant find it! Lordcyric3: hail all and well met TSRO Stone: yes it is TSRO Spock: Queue: Ethellon, Balor St, Ganklin, Lithindrym, LilMunchie, HAL9064, Will27, TSRO Thar TSRO Stone: check the TSR Online store TSRO Spock: Sakkra4 TSRO Stone: Ethellon ? Ethellon: What is the limit of the Lady of Pain's power? As an example, take the fact that Io the TSRO Spock: Ethellon, has the next question. Ethellon: Ninefold Dragon is really powerful (REALLY powerful); how could the Lady of Pain stop him Ethellon: if he wanted in the Cage? /end TSRO Stone: her power in the city is absolute TSRO Stone: as it makes direct reference that _her_ power keeps the others out TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Stone: Balor St ? Balor St: How do the alignments of law and chaos play/effect the planes? If there is law, (don't sound Balor St: like it) who enforces it? TSRO Stone: depends on your location Ethellon: ? TSRO Stone: in the Abyss, there is only the laws of prey and predetor TSRO Stone: on one of the lawful planes, the powers and proxies enfore the laws TSRO Stone: of the power on that plane TSRO Stone: in the city, the Harmonium enforces the Lady's laws TSRO Stone: -end Balor St: Thank ye! TSRO Stone: Ganklin ? Ganklin: The githzerai seem like a peacful (monastic?) people. Why do they originate and live in... Lordcyric3: anyone? Ganklin: such a chaotic plane like Limbo? BLKNGHT: Well met all ! TSRO Stone: the origins of the Gith races are well documented Ganklin: yes I know... Ganklin: But why do they continue to stay? TSRO Stone: the Githzerai are there for their own reasons Ganklin: Especially when the Githyanki are so close... TSRO Stone: thats one reason they stay, to fight their mortal enems TSRO Stone: err enemies TSRO Stone: the Yanki Ganklin: ok. I'll buy that. TSRO Stone: remember those two are in a blood feud.... Ganklin: Thanks -end TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Lithindrym, LilMunchie, HAL9064, Will27, TSRO Thar, Sakkra4, Ethellon TSRO Stone: Lith > Lithindrym: Agathion (4th layer Pandamonium) needs elaboration. What is there? Godly weapons? TSRO Stone: folks, no more questions other than those in the quque Lithindrym: Godly Powerful Monsters, What? More detail wanted please TSRO Stone: it's getting late Lithindrym: /end TSRO Stone: go for it Lith ! alot of those levels were left purposely vague for later expansion and/or TSRO Stone: for people to develop as they wish TSRO Stone: they want no repeat of the FR where every street is named before you get there TSRO Stone: -end Lordcyric3: ? TSRO Stone: no mre questions other than those currently in the quque TSRO Spock: Queue: LilMunchie, HAL9064, Will27, TSRO Thar, Sakkra4, Ethellon TSRO Stone: next ? TSRO Stone: Munch ? LilMunchie: If Ravenloft is a demiplane, and it holds all different realms... is it similar toPlanescape LilMunchie: in that way???? TSRO Stone: Ravenloft is an Alternate Prime Material Plane TSRO Stone: part of the planes that contain Oerth, Toril, and Anaslon TSRO Stone: and Athas LilMunchie: But is it the same, since that they hold different realms????? LilMunchie: I don't get it.... TSRO Stone: no, Ravenloft is it's own animal SaevusPax: Mmm isn't Ravenloft it's own demi-plane? Hawkwyd: ? LilMunchie: So, they aren't the same type of plane of existence?? LilMunchie: emphasis on TYPE TSRO Stone: as you have none of affects of plane travel when going from realm to realm LilMunchie: In PS, or Raven...??? TSRO Stone: Ravenloft is a Plane of Existence TSRO Stone: PlaneScape is the overview of ALL Planes of existence TSRO Spock: Queue: HAL9064, Will27, Sakkra4, Ethellon LilMunchie: So, Ravenloft is just a very tiny part of the Planescape??? TSRO Stone: correct LilMunchie: Ooops. /end TSRO Spock: HAL has the next question...:) LilMunchie: Thanx TSRO Stone: -end HAL9064: Is there going to be any information published or gaming ideas based on the Modron HAL9064: Procession? It seems a terrible possibility to waste. TSRO Stone: well Hal, I agree... I'm sure someone will use it....... The Planes of Law Boxed set talks HAL9064: And, would penalties for an unusual class be lessened in a campaign in the cage? TSRO Stone: about the Modron Hierarcy TSRO Stone: depends on the Class HAL9064: Goatta get it then. TSRO Stone: that would be a DM's call HAL9064: I mean DM designed ones. TSRO Stone: it depends on the specific class TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Will27, Sakkra4, Ethellon TSRO Stone: Will ? Will27: If a speak with dead is cast how does it work in relation to a petitioner since they don't TSRO Spock: Will has the next question...:) HAL9064: ? Will27: remember their past life /end TSRO Stone: that spell does not work on any plane but the Prime Material TSRO Stone: when you cast it, you call the spirit back to where it was TSRO Stone: not a good explanation but,.... all we got ;-) TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Spock: Queue: Sakkra4, Ethellon TSRO Spock: Sakkra, has the next question..:) TSRO Stone: Sakkra ? Sakkra4: As I understand it Athas is independent and cut off from the planes....or has this changed TSRO Stone: nope, that is still true TSRO Stone: in our game, we connected it to allow people to game there Sakkra4: in the planescape boxed set...also will the RPGA be doing any sanctioned Planescape TSRO Stone: another DM's choice Sakkra4: tournements?? TSRO Thar: !!!!!! TSRO Thar: !!!!! TSRO Stone: RPGA is currently running Planescape, they ran it at GenCon TSRO Spock: Thar you have a comment? TSRO Stone: and will run it at other locations TSRO Stone: -end TSRO Thar: Just what Stone said, and that they will have about 6 more sanctioned PS events before TSRO Spock: Ethellon has the last question for this evening. :) TSRO Thar: the end of the year.. TSRO Stone: Ethellon ? Ethellon: Woohoo, Last to Ask... Anyway, at what point in good 'ol Concordant Oppostion do all the TSRO Stone: thanks Thar TSRO Spock: Thanks Thar....:) Ethellon: 10th level spells become nonfunctional? Does the Lady of Pain allow 10th level spells in Ethellon: Sigil? Ethellon: /end TSRO Stone: magic works in Sigil as on the prime TSRO Stone: spells work on each plane based on that plane's description TSRO Stone: on some (Arborea), divination magic is changed TSRO Stone: on others, (Abyss) magic draws critters to you Ethellon: In the boxed set it shows that outside of SIgil but still in the Outlands, spells become Ethellon: useless as you get closer to the mountain Sigil is on, but only up to 9th level. Ethellon: Where do 10th level spells fail? TSRO Stone: 10th level spells came after the boxed set TSRO Stone: consider then useless also TSRO Stone: -end Ethellon: Done, and done. /end TSRO Stone: thanks for hanging folks TSRO Stone: hope this helped you a little and TSRO Stone: dont forget the online game HAL9064: It helped me a lot! TSRO Stone: if you want more info, e-mail me and I'll send you the canned info TSRO Stone: thanks Spock and Geoff TSRO Stone: you both DA MAN !!!!!! TSRO Stone: thank you for coming, next week DRAGONLANCE TSRO Geoff: ! TSRO Spock: ::Bows:: Thank you...:)